Post by Leon Grad on Feb 12, 2024 17:23:39 GMT
So. The Quebec government, in step with Trudeau's Canadian government, just posted a new announcement. This time, they're going big. According to their latest release: Because of Global Warming, here in Quebec we've had "no winter" this winter.
No winter. At all.
Radio-Canada (one of the biggest government-sponsored news source for Quebec):
(https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/2037807/meteo-noel-vert-neige-janvier):
Translation: "We're expecting just a few snowflakes for three regions, but there won't be any snowfall anytime soon."
Translation: "According to Environment Canada, temperatures are around 10 degrees (Celsius) warmer than they should."
From Quebecor news corporation:
(https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2024/01/31/les-temperatures-ont-ete-tres-douces-un-mois-de-janvier-plus-doux-qua-la-normale-dans-lensemble-du-quebec)
Translation: "Temperatures have never gotten any colder than -20 degrees Celsius this winter, which is a first since over 20 years."
So they seem to define a "winter" as one being super cold and super snowy. That's a bit weird, because colder temperatures actually work against the "snowy" part. When it's too cold, water evaporates less, and so there's less snow clouds, which in turn decrease the likelihood of snowfalls.
But let's use their definition nonetheless and continue.
So remember: We've had "no winter", because we've had "no snow", and "humongous warmth".
Let's see another source on Google searches:
Bell Canada:
(https://www.google.com/search?q=Quebec+hiver+le+plus+chaud+record+2024&client=ms-android-bell-ca&sca_esv=e51918ddf39b0c56&tbm=nws&ei=b7zDZZ3RC6ji5NoP8qGukA4&start=10&sa=N)
Translation: "'We promised me snow!': the start of winter 2024 in Quebec disappoints tourists. A street in Old-Montreal without snow on January 3rd 2024."
Interesting. Now they bring up pictures of a street in the middle of one of the largest cities in Canada, and so we have this as a "proof" that there were no snowfalls. A street that has, by law, to be cleaned from snow and from ice so to avoid pedestrians from slipping and falling. In one of the cities that has the most urban warming effect. Let's not take a picture of actual nature. No, let's take a picture of the warmest possible city with concrete and all, and a street that is constantly plowed and salted and driven upon.
Also, new point added: "No tourists". So we've had "no winter" because of three points now:
-No snow
-Ludicrously high temperatures
-No tourists, which were "promised snow".
Let's continue.
According to MeteoMedia (Environment Canada's loudspeaker for Quebec):
(https://www.meteomedia.com/fr/nouvelles/meteo/previsions/lhiver-2024-dans-la-course-vers-une-saison-historique?_guid_iss_=1)
Translation: "This winter will be one of the warmest in History even if February becomes the coldest of the three months, or if the temperatures get closer to normal."
So once again, humongous warmth. So warm that even if temperatures would be normal, they wouldn't actually be normal, they'd all become part of the humongously historical record-breaking warmth. Hey, listen. You just can't begin to fathom how warm it is.
So anyway I was curious, because I live in the area. And when I'd come out of my house, I'd actually see nature and the beautiful environment around me (and not just something like a street squeezed between two walls of concrete). And I had experienced cold, and the entire place was covered in snow.
But I realized WAIT and stopped right there on my porch! Maybe I'm living in some kind of natural bubble. Maybe I was the only person, in the whole world, that'd experienced cold and snow in Quebec this winter! I looked around at the smooth snowy mountains and the snowy valleys and my snow-covered car, my eyes narrowing with suspicion. What if snow had fallen over me only, and a 10 kilometer radius around me, and I had been the victim of a bad winter joke, while the rest of Quebec was in fact enjoying a nice, lush Hondurian Tropical paradise?
So I drove a hundred kilometers down to a village called Sainte-Adele (super popular with the tourists, and right next to Saint-Sauveur-Des-Monts' ski resorts, renowned across Canada), to check the weather there. What was my incredible surprise to discover that over there, and everywhere in between, there was snow on the ground, and the temperatures had been winter-like! I snapped this picture, on Feb 8:
This picture was taken around noon so the sun's elevation in the sky indicates the date, in case some idiot claims I could've taken the picture during some January (non-existent of course) snowfall. I chose this mountain precisely, because it has a cross on top, which is a famous Quebec attraction and instantly identifies the place as not just some random mountain. Incidentally, I took the picture with my camera lying on a literal boulder of compact snow about 7 feet high, which was left there as a result of provincial snow plowing operations. You can see similar mounds of snow here in there in the picture, and their sizes relative to a car or a building.
I hid my mouth and gasped with shock! So yeah anyway I kept driving and decided to check out Saint-Sauveur-Des-Monts, cursing in the thick touristic traffic. The buildings all had snow on them, and the ski resort was not only covered in snow, but also covered in hundreds of people doing ski!
But why take my word for it?
Here's the blog a tourist wrote about his experience on a ski resort, in the winter of early 2024:
(https://www.slopeedge.ca/ski-reports/mont-tremblant-january-24,-2024-snapshot):
This person described his winter stay as "cold". But remember, "we've had no winter". Next:
There was snow. And it was, once again, chilly, to a point where it affects this person's experience negatively (notice the use of the word "however"). But, remember! "We've had no winter". Next!
Temperatures around -20 degrees Celsius. But but but remember! "We've had no winter". Next!
This person reports a whole lot of tourists, just as I have personally observed. Okay something fishy going on, eh? Wouldn't you agree.
Let's see another source!
(https://blogue.tremblant.ca/mountain-ops-jan-17-2024/):
85 centimeters is about 30 inches of snow, in a single week.
Temperatures were cold enough for hosting ice sculpture contests across Quebec:
So it was, wait, cold?!
But why take my word for it? Or in fact, why take the words of all the toursists that flooded the place this year?
Let's visit the official local Weather Station historical data, hosted by the Government of Canada itself throught its division Environment Canada, at source: weather.gc.ca/city/pages/qc-33_metric_e.html and explore a few highlights.
On the morning of Thursday 7 Dec 2023 temperatures had dropped to -21.8 degrees Celsius. This disproves the claim that "Quebec's temperatures have never dropped below 20 degrees Celsius", right off the bat.
Minimum for Thu 14 Dec 2023: -15.9 degrees Celsius.
Minimum for Thu 21 Dec 2023: -15.5 degrees Celsius.
Minimum for Thu 28 Dec 2023: warm period of 1.6 degrees Celsius.
Minimum for Thu 4 Jan 2024: -16.5 degrees Celsius. This was followed by a low of -19.9 on the very next day.
Minimum for Thu 11 Jan 2024: -14.3 degrees Celsius. This was followed by -21.0 the very next day.
Minimum for Thu 18 Jan 2024: -20.7 degrees Celsius. This was followed by -28.2 the very next day.
Therefore the claim that "Temperatures have never dropped even once below the -20 mark" is, put bluntly, a flat out lie. The claim that there were "no snow" in Quebec is a flat out lie. The claim that there were no tourists on the ski stations this year is a flat out lie.
Why is it that the largest media groups in Canada, including some of which that are affiliated with the Trudeau/Legault governments, are allowed to broadcast outright lies to the masses, and with those lies, induce mass hysteria and eco-terror? Why are fraudulent claims about climate being encouraged by those agencies?
At the same time as these para-governmental announcements were being made, members of the World Economic Forum met with one another and made a weird kind of jab at atotential investigators.
According to their latest release (https://time.com/6553908/ai-misinformation-threat-wef/), strangely timed with the fraudulent claims, "AI" is a threat. Because, the WEF argues, "AI" now has the power to "fake" evidences that contradict the announcements made by the WEF and its partners (including Trudeau), especially on the topic of "climate change".
In other words, if I, as Pangaea's Minister of Advancement (and Environment by interim), find data and evidences that contradict the WEF (or any associated agencies) fraudulent claims, then my data and evidences (even if backed by Canadian Government data itself) will always just be the results of a big "conspiracy" that's masterminded by "AI", and therefore should be entirely dismissed in favor of the WEF's own ecoterror-centered lies and policies.
Can't win an argument with those guys, eh.
WEF: "There was no snow in Canada!"
Pangaea: "Uh, yeah there was."
WEF: "Oh, well it wasn't cold, ever!"
Pangaea: "Uh, once again it did get pretty cold."
WEF: "Urgh! Well there were no ski, no tourists, nothing."
Pangaea: "Mmm, we got a large quantity of tourists. You okay? You look a little pale."
WEF: "Shiitake. Oh well. Time for the final argument then: YOU'VE BEEN DECEIVED BY SOME SUPERPOWERFUL AI CONSPIRACY AND I'M RIGHT!"
That being said, although we've definitely experienced a winter, it was indeed a mild winter, similar to the ones I'd enjoy as a teen around 2000s, and I get the feeling the food crop growing season (and wildlife activity) will start early this year.
At some point in early February the daily high was over 8 degrees warmer than "usual"; but the daily heatloss was also 6 degrees more important than usual, which seems to contradict the theory of global-warming-by-greenhouse-gases, since the atmosphere was in fact holding less heat than it should. But this isn't certain, since we have yet to complete a whole year of high-quality weather data which we can then use as a point of reference for future observations (and only then identity a trend).
If, IF true, this might confirm John Skieswanne's prediction that the overall greenhouse effect is actually (oddly enough) decreasing (or somehow counteracted), which will lead to a more "moon-like" climatic condition where the days will be extremely hot (because of solar irradiation) but the night will also become extremely cold (because the atmosphere fails to retain heat as the Earth turns to the night side).
It'd be interesting to compare the data with that of Relica, and see the direction & magnitude of the heatloss trend, and if the trend is local or global.
No winter. At all.
Radio-Canada (one of the biggest government-sponsored news source for Quebec):
(https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/2037807/meteo-noel-vert-neige-janvier):
On attend quelques flocons ici et là pour les trois régions, mais il n’y a pas de tempêtes à l’horizon pour le moment.
Translation: "We're expecting just a few snowflakes for three regions, but there won't be any snowfall anytime soon."
Selon Environnement Canada, les températures se situent à environ 10 degrés au dessus de la normale.
Translation: "According to Environment Canada, temperatures are around 10 degrees (Celsius) warmer than they should."
From Quebecor news corporation:
(https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2024/01/31/les-temperatures-ont-ete-tres-douces-un-mois-de-janvier-plus-doux-qua-la-normale-dans-lensemble-du-quebec)
le mercure n’a pas encore franchi le cap des moins 20 degrés Celsius cet hiver, une première en plus de 20 ans.
Translation: "Temperatures have never gotten any colder than -20 degrees Celsius this winter, which is a first since over 20 years."
So they seem to define a "winter" as one being super cold and super snowy. That's a bit weird, because colder temperatures actually work against the "snowy" part. When it's too cold, water evaporates less, and so there's less snow clouds, which in turn decrease the likelihood of snowfalls.
But let's use their definition nonetheless and continue.
So remember: We've had "no winter", because we've had "no snow", and "humongous warmth".
Let's see another source on Google searches:
Bell Canada:
(https://www.google.com/search?q=Quebec+hiver+le+plus+chaud+record+2024&client=ms-android-bell-ca&sca_esv=e51918ddf39b0c56&tbm=nws&ei=b7zDZZ3RC6ji5NoP8qGukA4&start=10&sa=N)
«On m'avait promis de la neige»: le début de l'hiver 2024 au Québec déçoit les touristes
Une rue du Vieux-Montréal sans neige le 3 janvier 2024.
Une rue du Vieux-Montréal sans neige le 3 janvier 2024.
Translation: "'We promised me snow!': the start of winter 2024 in Quebec disappoints tourists. A street in Old-Montreal without snow on January 3rd 2024."
Interesting. Now they bring up pictures of a street in the middle of one of the largest cities in Canada, and so we have this as a "proof" that there were no snowfalls. A street that has, by law, to be cleaned from snow and from ice so to avoid pedestrians from slipping and falling. In one of the cities that has the most urban warming effect. Let's not take a picture of actual nature. No, let's take a picture of the warmest possible city with concrete and all, and a street that is constantly plowed and salted and driven upon.
Also, new point added: "No tourists". So we've had "no winter" because of three points now:
-No snow
-Ludicrously high temperatures
-No tourists, which were "promised snow".
Let's continue.
According to MeteoMedia (Environment Canada's loudspeaker for Quebec):
(https://www.meteomedia.com/fr/nouvelles/meteo/previsions/lhiver-2024-dans-la-course-vers-une-saison-historique?_guid_iss_=1)
la saison hivernale sera une des plus chaudes de l'histoire même si février devient le mois le plus froid des trois, ou si les températures sont plus près des normales.
Translation: "This winter will be one of the warmest in History even if February becomes the coldest of the three months, or if the temperatures get closer to normal."
So once again, humongous warmth. So warm that even if temperatures would be normal, they wouldn't actually be normal, they'd all become part of the humongously historical record-breaking warmth. Hey, listen. You just can't begin to fathom how warm it is.
So anyway I was curious, because I live in the area. And when I'd come out of my house, I'd actually see nature and the beautiful environment around me (and not just something like a street squeezed between two walls of concrete). And I had experienced cold, and the entire place was covered in snow.
But I realized WAIT and stopped right there on my porch! Maybe I'm living in some kind of natural bubble. Maybe I was the only person, in the whole world, that'd experienced cold and snow in Quebec this winter! I looked around at the smooth snowy mountains and the snowy valleys and my snow-covered car, my eyes narrowing with suspicion. What if snow had fallen over me only, and a 10 kilometer radius around me, and I had been the victim of a bad winter joke, while the rest of Quebec was in fact enjoying a nice, lush Hondurian Tropical paradise?
So I drove a hundred kilometers down to a village called Sainte-Adele (super popular with the tourists, and right next to Saint-Sauveur-Des-Monts' ski resorts, renowned across Canada), to check the weather there. What was my incredible surprise to discover that over there, and everywhere in between, there was snow on the ground, and the temperatures had been winter-like! I snapped this picture, on Feb 8:
This picture was taken around noon so the sun's elevation in the sky indicates the date, in case some idiot claims I could've taken the picture during some January (non-existent of course) snowfall. I chose this mountain precisely, because it has a cross on top, which is a famous Quebec attraction and instantly identifies the place as not just some random mountain. Incidentally, I took the picture with my camera lying on a literal boulder of compact snow about 7 feet high, which was left there as a result of provincial snow plowing operations. You can see similar mounds of snow here in there in the picture, and their sizes relative to a car or a building.
I hid my mouth and gasped with shock! So yeah anyway I kept driving and decided to check out Saint-Sauveur-Des-Monts, cursing in the thick touristic traffic. The buildings all had snow on them, and the ski resort was not only covered in snow, but also covered in hundreds of people doing ski!
But why take my word for it?
Here's the blog a tourist wrote about his experience on a ski resort, in the winter of early 2024:
(https://www.slopeedge.ca/ski-reports/mont-tremblant-january-24,-2024-snapshot):
What a beautiful day on the slopes. The weather was cold but perfectly reasonable, thanks to the bright sun and the bluebird skies (that always warms one's spirit).
This person described his winter stay as "cold". But remember, "we've had no winter". Next:
After the snow we had this week (about time), my sister Heather, Lukas, and Abby headed off to an evening at our community ski hill Mont Bellevue. It was chilly however
There was snow. And it was, once again, chilly, to a point where it affects this person's experience negatively (notice the use of the word "however"). But, remember! "We've had no winter". Next!
It was a cold day, especially in the morning. With temperatures at -20'c and a "feels like" several degrees colder
Temperatures around -20 degrees Celsius. But but but remember! "We've had no winter". Next!
The lineups on the weekend are brutal, and at the cost you pay for the lift ticket, a bit of insanity.
This person reports a whole lot of tourists, just as I have personally observed. Okay something fishy going on, eh? Wouldn't you agree.
Let's see another source!
(https://blogue.tremblant.ca/mountain-ops-jan-17-2024/):
JANUARY 17, 2024|IN MOUNTAIN OPS|BY TREMBLANT
Mother Nature came through last week and brought us over 85 cm of new snow in 7 days. All this natural snow largely helped our ski conditions and also allowed us to open a lot of new terrain, including our glades.
Mother Nature came through last week and brought us over 85 cm of new snow in 7 days. All this natural snow largely helped our ski conditions and also allowed us to open a lot of new terrain, including our glades.
85 centimeters is about 30 inches of snow, in a single week.
Temperatures were cold enough for hosting ice sculpture contests across Quebec:
Have you seen our new ice sculpture on the South side? This new ephemeral art installation represents the winter landscapes of Quebec, and is part of an initiative by Bonjour Québec as part of their mandate for the Quebec Ministry of Tourism. Tremblant is proud to have been chosen among the 3 sites to host the sculptor. Don’t hesitate to take yourself in photo in front of it during your next visit by tagging us with #tremblant and #bonjourenglace
So it was, wait, cold?!
But why take my word for it? Or in fact, why take the words of all the toursists that flooded the place this year?
Let's visit the official local Weather Station historical data, hosted by the Government of Canada itself throught its division Environment Canada, at source: weather.gc.ca/city/pages/qc-33_metric_e.html and explore a few highlights.
On the morning of Thursday 7 Dec 2023 temperatures had dropped to -21.8 degrees Celsius. This disproves the claim that "Quebec's temperatures have never dropped below 20 degrees Celsius", right off the bat.
Minimum for Thu 14 Dec 2023: -15.9 degrees Celsius.
Minimum for Thu 21 Dec 2023: -15.5 degrees Celsius.
Minimum for Thu 28 Dec 2023: warm period of 1.6 degrees Celsius.
Minimum for Thu 4 Jan 2024: -16.5 degrees Celsius. This was followed by a low of -19.9 on the very next day.
Minimum for Thu 11 Jan 2024: -14.3 degrees Celsius. This was followed by -21.0 the very next day.
Minimum for Thu 18 Jan 2024: -20.7 degrees Celsius. This was followed by -28.2 the very next day.
Therefore the claim that "Temperatures have never dropped even once below the -20 mark" is, put bluntly, a flat out lie. The claim that there were "no snow" in Quebec is a flat out lie. The claim that there were no tourists on the ski stations this year is a flat out lie.
Why is it that the largest media groups in Canada, including some of which that are affiliated with the Trudeau/Legault governments, are allowed to broadcast outright lies to the masses, and with those lies, induce mass hysteria and eco-terror? Why are fraudulent claims about climate being encouraged by those agencies?
At the same time as these para-governmental announcements were being made, members of the World Economic Forum met with one another and made a weird kind of jab at atotential investigators.
According to their latest release (https://time.com/6553908/ai-misinformation-threat-wef/), strangely timed with the fraudulent claims, "AI" is a threat. Because, the WEF argues, "AI" now has the power to "fake" evidences that contradict the announcements made by the WEF and its partners (including Trudeau), especially on the topic of "climate change".
In other words, if I, as Pangaea's Minister of Advancement (and Environment by interim), find data and evidences that contradict the WEF (or any associated agencies) fraudulent claims, then my data and evidences (even if backed by Canadian Government data itself) will always just be the results of a big "conspiracy" that's masterminded by "AI", and therefore should be entirely dismissed in favor of the WEF's own ecoterror-centered lies and policies.
Can't win an argument with those guys, eh.
WEF: "There was no snow in Canada!"
Pangaea: "Uh, yeah there was."
WEF: "Oh, well it wasn't cold, ever!"
Pangaea: "Uh, once again it did get pretty cold."
WEF: "Urgh! Well there were no ski, no tourists, nothing."
Pangaea: "Mmm, we got a large quantity of tourists. You okay? You look a little pale."
WEF: "Shiitake. Oh well. Time for the final argument then: YOU'VE BEEN DECEIVED BY SOME SUPERPOWERFUL AI CONSPIRACY AND I'M RIGHT!"
That being said, although we've definitely experienced a winter, it was indeed a mild winter, similar to the ones I'd enjoy as a teen around 2000s, and I get the feeling the food crop growing season (and wildlife activity) will start early this year.
At some point in early February the daily high was over 8 degrees warmer than "usual"; but the daily heatloss was also 6 degrees more important than usual, which seems to contradict the theory of global-warming-by-greenhouse-gases, since the atmosphere was in fact holding less heat than it should. But this isn't certain, since we have yet to complete a whole year of high-quality weather data which we can then use as a point of reference for future observations (and only then identity a trend).
If, IF true, this might confirm John Skieswanne's prediction that the overall greenhouse effect is actually (oddly enough) decreasing (or somehow counteracted), which will lead to a more "moon-like" climatic condition where the days will be extremely hot (because of solar irradiation) but the night will also become extremely cold (because the atmosphere fails to retain heat as the Earth turns to the night side).
It'd be interesting to compare the data with that of Relica, and see the direction & magnitude of the heatloss trend, and if the trend is local or global.